Moto Guzzi V85 TT Review

Motorcycle Test by Trevor Hedge
Images by iKap & Moto Guzzi


Moto Guzzi’s all-new V85TT is a welcome new offering in the mid-capacity adventure-touring segment and one that spurned a lot of interest on social media when we first highlighted the pending arrival of the machine on MCNews.com.au.

Moto Guzzi V TT
Moto Guzzi V85 TT

Guzzi’s most recent, but now discontinued, adventure bike model, the Stelvio, was an all-roads touring bike. The Stelvio was not built for serious dirt tracks with rock strewn climbs, but instead for mega mile-munching, with few stops required thanks to its 32-litre tank. However, it was competent enough to take on reasonably well formed trails, and in NTX guise scored spoke rims and engine guards. It was powered by a very charismatic, but moderately powerful, 1151cc V-Twin that in its final 8V incarnation mustered 104 horsepower and 113 Nm of torque. It was comfortable and enjoyable, but at over 270kg it was not the best tool in the shed for negotiating tricky side-tracks in the hands of moderately talented riders.

Stelvio Beach
Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX from 2011

Still, the Stelvio had its fans, and I must admit that I too had somewhat of a soft spot for the latter generation NTX as pictured above. That big 90-degree air-cooled transverse V-Twin stirred the soul perhaps even more than a BMW Boxer. However when in the market myself around the time the Stelvio NTX was released, it was the fizzing ADHD kid that was KTM’s 990 Adventure R that actually got my money.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Badge
Moto Guzzi V85 TT

Anyways, enough of a history lesson, and reflections on my bike buying habits, lets get on to the eagerly anticipated new kid on the adventure block from Moto Guzzi, the V85 TT.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Showroom
Moto Guzzi V85 TT – KYB supply the suspension

Produced in the beautiful northern Italian town of Mandello Del Lario, a fact proudly highlighted on the instrumentation of the V85 TT, the Moto Guzzi factory overlooks the glamorous Lake Como. Guzzi have been producing their machines in those glorious surroundings since 1921. Like most Italian companies the ownership of the brand has changed from time to time, and for the past 15 years Guzzi has benefitted from being under the stewardship of the Piaggio Group. Brands such as Aprilia also under Piaggio’s purview and in recent years Moto Guzzi has benefitted greatly from the tie-up via a great injection of technology from their cousins over at Noale.

Moto Guzzi V TT Dash
A useful USB port is tucked away beside the instrumentation. Win! The instrumentation automatically adjusts its brightness to suit the ambient lighting conditions and changes colour completely when things turns proper dark.

The new V85 TT even boasts the same Marelli 7SM ECU smarts as the 200+ horsepower Aprilia RSV4 sportsbike, along with traction control and ABS systems all linked to the fly-by-wire throttle. Importantly though, it is still very much a Guzzi.

Guzzis are different, and the V85 TT is a stark contrast to other options in the adventure-touring marketplace. This is perhaps is its most endearing character trait. Particularly in the technicolour dream-coat yellow-white-red-black colour scheme that Guzzi dub ‘Evocative’.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch RHS
Moto Guzzi claims the V85 TT tips the scales at 208 kg dry.

Some cruel bastards have dubbed the V85 TT in this colour scheme ‘Ronald McDonald’s bike’. Well I don’t like McDonalds (the burgers are better at Hungry Jack’s), but I do find the V85 TT quite tasty to my colour palette.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Snow
Moto Guzzi V85 TT

The quality of the paint finish on the steel trellis frame appears to be fantastic and this extends from the headlight and instrumentation supporting bracketry up front, to the rear grab-rails and luggage rack. It appears deep and lustrous enough to survive the tests of time, and I certainly hope it does.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Shoei
Moto Guzzi V85 TT

The 853cc V-Twin is a stressed member that helps form the pelvis of the spine frame while the swing-arm pivots directly off the gearbox before terminating in a shaft final-drive. The ‘jacking’ from the torque reaction as drive is transferred to the shaft has long been relegated to a more dark past of motorcycling history by all brands and the Guzzi exhibits no negative handling traits from its shaft-drive system.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Snow
Ground clearance is 210 mm.

However I do find the V85 TT taller geared than I would prefer. And obviously with shaft drive you are stuck with that gearing as shortening the final drive ratio is not quite as simple as adding a few teeth to a rear sprocket, or dropping a tooth off the front.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Log
Trev describes his riding style as ‘how to do everything completely technically wrong, but somehow still make it to the other end in one piece’. Pretty it’s not, but he has been attending motorcycle launches for two decades and has, as yet, never crashed on one!

Cruising at 100 km/h in sixth gear sees the lightest spinning crank I have ever felt in a Guzzi turning only 3750 rpm. It will pull 70 km/h in first and that means tight and tricky going will need plenty of left hand work to slip that dry clutch. Although it must be said smooth mapping, a reluctance to stall, and a very light pull on that adjustable clutch lever through a nice smooth engagement doesn’t make this too great a chore. It was not all that long ago that BMW Boxers also ran a dry clutch and the smell of clutch in the air at times brought those memories flooding back. That’s not necessarily a negative, BMW ended up getting them right and I have never known Guzzis to have weak clutches, but it is a point worth noting for those that are not accustomed to motorcycles that use a clutch system more akin to a car, instead of the regular wet multi-plate clutch system used in most motorcycles.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Reefton
Road mode provides the most eager throttle response but it still far from sharp. In Rain mode the engine response is dramatically dumbed down while the ABS and traction control systems are put on high alert for the earliest possible intervention.

The transverse engine pulls quite willingly past 8000 rpm but I found myself often forgetting that 80 horsepower top end was there. The long legged gearing made revving the Guzzi that hard almost a conscious decision. Most of the time I was loping around below 5000 rpm and thinking ‘gee this engine doesn’t really pull all that hard’. Only to then force things past that marker to find an engine that actually surprises a little in the top end.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Riding
Twin 320 mm floating stainless rotors are clamped by four-piston radial-mount Brembo calipers

The official claims from Moto Guzzi quote 80 horsepower at 7750 rpm and 80 Nm of torque at 5000 rpm. The torque curve does not feel, to the seat of my DriRider pants, quite as broad as their (supplied) dyno chart suggests, but to be fair the engines were hardly broken in, and traditionally Guzzi engines do take some time to loosen up and give their best.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Engine Front
Engine features a high-capacity (430 watt) alternator. Marelli supplies the single 52mm ride-by-wire throttle body and 7SM ECU

It is not as willing as the latest BMW F 850 GS, but is not too far off the outgoing F 800 GS engine. But with a more endearing character than the fluffy BMW 800 parallel twin ever mustered before it got its new crank phasing for the latest 850 generation of the model that finally gave the BMW twin some bark.

Guzzi have lightened the crank compared to the ‘V9’ street-bike models that also utilise this new engine platform. Along with lighter forged pistons Guzzi claim a 30 per cent reduction in reciprocating mass.

That would normally be a good thing, but to my mind what makes a Guzzi, a ‘Guzzi’, is a bloody heavy crank that makes you really feel those pistons pumping away mightily out each side of the bike.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Dirt
Riding modes include Road, Rain and Off-Road. The Off-Road setting automatically switches ABS off on the rear brake while adding a little more engine braking and opening the traction control algorithms up a little to allow a bit more slip. The front ABS can also be switched off via a menu.

Granted, these 84mm slugs are a fair bit smaller than the 95mm pistons used in the outgoing 1200 Guzzi models. Lighter internals of course have benefits in regards to how quick the engine revs (even if that nature is somewhat hobbled by moonshot gearing), it also makes this Guzzi lose a little of its potential charm. Still, the engineering principles are sound and I would expect this push-rod engine, complete with roller cam followers, titanium inlet valves, virtual dry sump and a single 52mm throttle body will provide a long and trouble free service life. Thanks to its relatively simplistic lay-out I would also expect, and hope, that servicing the Guzzi will be an easy affair.

A deeply finned sump serves as an oil cooler and Guzzi claims the new engine is thermally efficient enough to not require an oil-heat exchanger or radiator. Thus this new engine is a rare bird indeed as we march forlornly towards Euro5 emission regulations. As the launch was conducted in single-digit temperatures we can’t tell you if the engine transmits too much heat to the rider. The rocker covers seemingly have some sort of second skin that prevented them from getting hot enough to warm my gloves during snow photo stops though!

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Head Gloves
As a stressed member the engine forms a structural element of the chassis

No doubt it is that clever Marelli ECU that enables Moto Guzzi to meet all looming emissions standards without the requirement for liquid cooling, and that alone deserves some major kudos. There might be hope for the DR650 yet!

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Muffler
The pre-muffler and catalytic convertor set-up on the V85 TT is a monstrosity of epic proportions. Thankfully it is largely hidden but as it is so large, it is a wonder that they also required such a large muffler. The rear disc rotor measures 260 mm in diameter while Brembo supplies the two-piston caliper

It is also electronic smarts that a few years ago helped Guzzi rid themselves of a not so welcome trait that they were infamous for. Massive levels of engine braking that mandated any down-shifts be done slowly, deliberately and a long way before any approaching corner, if not to enter said corners sideways in a compression lock-up, have long been tamed by the move to ride-by-wire throttles some years ago. The V85 TT does not require a learned Guzzi specific riding technique in any way and is instead user friendly from the word go.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Seats
Moto Guzzi V85 TT

The riding position feels quite natural in most ways, except for the bars being exceptionally wide. The seat is beautifully finished and accommodated my ample buns quite nicely. At 830 mm the seat is also quite low while the pegs were at a good height and the vision ahead clear. The screen works well enough without being obtrusive and there is a larger screen on offer from the accessories catalogue if one so desires.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Mirrors
Mirrors are perhaps the best I have ever used. Cruise control is standard. Heated grips are not.

One positive from the ultra wide bars is that the mirrors are absolutely outstanding with a great field of rearward vision and zero vibrations at any speed. The pegs are rubber topped to help quell any vibes to your feet on long hauls and the rubber tops are removed by a single 10mm bolt when it is time to head off-road in wet conditions. And wet and cold conditions we certainly had!

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Snow
Moto Guzzi V85 TT

Unfortunately this made testing the suspension almost impossible. The near freezing temperatures meant that corners could not be attacked with any sort of vigour that would really put the suspension to the test. What I can say though is that over corrugation ripples off-road there was no sense of jack-hammering from the rear end, a trait all too common when you combine shaft drive with a shock not up to the job. The bike steered well, held a chosen line and showed no problematic characteristics, but we didn’t get the conditions required to really put the suspenders through the wringer.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Dirt
The ABS is a dual-channel unit supplied by Continental

The rear suspension is also a little different than most with the shock off-set to the right and working directly on the swing-arm, negating the need for a bottom linkage. Yes, somewhat like the PDS system on a KTM, but in this case the shock is mounted to one side and attached to a fairly rearward point on the drive-shaft, which also doubles as the RHS of the swing-arm.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Shaft
Shaft drive means no chain maintenance. It isn’t the sturdiest looking shaft drive housing I have seen but hopefully it proves up to the job long term. Swing-arm pivots directly off the gearbox

KYB supply both the shock and the forks that offer 170 mm of travel at each end. Preload and rebound damping is adjustable at both ends. Ground clearance is 210 mm.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Reefton
A reasonably sturdy bash-plate is standard on the V85 TT

Outright braking power was also hard to judge on the surfaces we experienced but they did prove progressive and predictable in what were some seriously sketchy conditions.

Rolling on a 19-inch front and 17-inch rear the Tri-colour variants of the V85TT ride on Michelin Anakee rubber while the solid colour models are shod with Metzeler Tourance Next. The rims are spoked but require tubes, thus there is no tyre-pressure monitoring system available to add to what otherwise is a very comprehensive cockpit suite displayed on the full colour TFT dash.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Lights
Both the brake and clutch levers are adjustable

The other annoyance is that while there is a gear position indicator, there is no gear position sensor on the gearbox. Instead the ECU works out what gear it is in via a combination of RPM and rear wheel speed. This means that when you are sandwiched between two trucks after lane-splitting to the front of the traffic lights the neutral light does not go out until you start rolling, which had me on tenterhooks when the lights went green as to whether I was actually in gear or not. This is compounded by the fact that there is no audible or sensory feedback when you select first gear. It is a minor gripe, but still, it shitted me!

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch RHR
Moto Guzzi quoted ‘aeronautical references’ when describing their twin tail-lights which they equate to the look of a twin-engine jets after-burners… Where are the flames!

Sophisticated and switchable traction control and ABS systems married to individual riding modes are all standard while the instrumentation is both comprehensive and clear. A six-segment fuel gauge allows you to keep an eye on how much of that generous 23-litre fuel capacity is remaining. The ambient temperature display laughs at you as it registers 0-degrees while realising that Moto Guzzi had not fitted the optional heated grips to the bikes prior to the Australian launch.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Snow
The engine has always been a focal point for Moto Guzzi stylists and the V85 TT is no different.

Further down the track Guzzi will add phone/intercom and navigation functionality to the dash via an app on your smartphone that will connect to the bike via bluetooth but this technology is not available at launch. Hopefully early buyers of the machine will be able to retrofit this at a modest cost when it becomes available later this year.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Lights Dark
The twin head-lights might conjure memories of the NTX 650 from 1996 and the Quota 1000 from 1989 but those bikes certainly never sported the bespoke Moto Guzzi eagle shaped daytime running lights to add that final piece of Guzzi signature to their form.

In the adventure-touring segment Moto Guzzi are providing something that is distinctly different. For those that speak Guzzi fluently, from previous experiences with their unique V-Twins, I believe you might miss the loping gait of that heavy crank throw, but otherwise there is still enough Guzzi flavour to savour.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Snow RHR
Moto Guzzi V85 TT – Image by TH

It is not an off-road supremo to the level of a GS, or a competitor for the coming more hard-core Tenere 700 Yamaha or the new 790 Adventure from KTM. It is an all-roads touring machine that opens up a little more horizons to riders who are in to the softer level of adventure, Guzzi makes no pretentions of this being otherwise.

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Snow
The 23-litre fuel tank is the largest in this mid-capacity segment and should guarantee touring ranges in excess of 400 kilometres.

The price of admission for the single colour option V85 TT machines is $20,690 ride away while the Tri-Colour variants command a $700 premium. That is getting up there for a mid-capacity touring machine but that is the price you pay for something a little bit different I guess. The V85 TT certainly stands out from the crowd, and I don’t mind being a bit different….

Moto Guzzi VTT Launch Colours
A tribe of V85 TT in the Victorian High Country

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Specifications

 

ENGINE
Type 4 stroke, 4 valve 90° V-twin with twin spark ignition
Cooling Air
Engine capacity 853 cm³
Bore and stroke 84 x 77 mm
Compression ratio 10,5 ± 0,5 : 1
Idle engine speed) 1300 ± 100 rpm
Maximum power 59 kW (80 HP) at 7750 rpm
Maximum torque 80 Nm at 5000 rpm
Fuel system / Ignition system Magneti Marelli 7SM2 electronic fuel injection; 52 mm diam. ride-by-wire throttle body, Magneti Marelli injectors, two lambda probes, torque control
Start-up Electric
Spark plugs NGK IR MR8BI-8
Exhaust system stainless steel, 2-in-1 type, three-way catalytic converter with double lambda probe
Emissions compliance Euro 4
Transmission
Gearbox mechanical, 6 speeds with foot lever on the left hand side of the engine
Gear ratio values 1st 16/39 = 1 : 2,437
2nd 18/32 = 1 : 1,777
3rd 21/28 = 1 : 1,333
4th 24/26 = 1 : 1,083
5th 25/24 = 1 : 0,96
6th 27/24 = 1: 0,888
Primary drive With gears, ratio 18/23 = 1 : 1,277
Final drive with cardan shaft, ratio 8/33 = 1 : 4,125
Clutch single disc dry clutch with flexible coupling
Fuel supply Electronic fuel injection (Marelli 7SM2)
Final drive Cardan shaft / ratio 8/33 = 1: 4,125
Cooling Air
Frame High strength tubular steel frame.
Gearbox Mechanical 6 speed transmission, with shift pedal on left hand side of engine
Steering rake angle 25,7°
Trail 128.3 mm
Chassis
Front suspension 41 mm diameter telescopic hydraulic fork Stroke 168 mm
Rear suspension Die-cast light alloy swingarm with 1 shock absorber adjustable spring preload and hydraulic rebound. Stroke 102 mm, 170mm travel
Front brake 320 mm stainless steel floating disc, radial calliper with four opposing 32 mm pistons
Rear brake 260 mm stainless steel disc and floating calliper with two 22 mm pistons
Front wheel 2.5″ x 19″
Rear wheel 4.25″ x 17″
Front tyre 110 / 80 R19 59V Inflation pressure: 2,5 bar
Rear tyre 150 / 70 R17 69V Inflation pressure: 2,8 bar
Fork oil – right stem 446 cmLevel from sleeve edge: 144 mm
Fork oil – left stem 360 cmLevel from sleeve edge: 143 mm
Front wheel 2.5″ x 19″
Rear wheel 4.25″ x 17″
Front tyre 110 / 80 R19 59V Inflation pressure: 2,5 bar
Rear tyre 150 / 70 R17 69V Inflation pressure: 2,8 bar
Maximum Length 2240 mm
Maximum width 950 mm
Height (at adjustable windshield) 1300-1325 mm
Wheelbase 1530 mm
Kerb weight 229 kg
Max. vehicle load 448 Kg (rider + passenger + luggage)
Capacity
Fuel tank (including reserve) 23 ± 1 L
Fuel tank reserve capacity 5 ± 0.5 L

 


Moto Guzzi’s tradition of adventure

Moto Guzzi boasts a solid off-road tradition and the acronym ‘TT’ stands for “tutto terreno” (all terrain) and builds on a tradition that was established by the marque with their Gold Medal winning ISDE machines in the 1930’s. In 1957, Guzzi offered the Lodola Regolarità, followed by the Stornello Regolarità in 1962.

Moto Guzzi took on the Paris-Dakar in 1985 with the V65 Baja and the following year with the V75 Baja, where they proved robust and reliable.

The high front mud-guard and double front head-light in the V85 TT are reminiscent of the NTX 650 from 1996 and the Quota 1000 from 1989.

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